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December 18, 2006 Regular
Special Meeting
5:00 PM Midtown Center Meeting Room
MINUTES
At 5:00 p.m. Chair Vern Newby called the meeting to order and led the
Pledge of Allegiance. Trustees Edie Brooks, Christie Wood, Sid
Fredrickson and Diane Zipperer were present.
Approval of Minutes: Motion by Mrs. Wood, second by Mrs. Brooks
to approve the minutes of December 4, 2006, passed 4-0-1 (Mr.
Fredrickson abstained). Motion by Mrs. Brooks, second by Mrs. Zipperer
to approve the minutes of December 7, 2006, passed 4-0-1 (Mr.
Fredrickson abstained).
Approval of the Agenda and Possible Addendum: Motion by Mr.
Fredrickson, second by Mrs. Brooks to approve the agenda with the
addition of Project CDA presentation, passed 5-0.
Students representing Project CDA addressed the Board about working with
Valerie Martin in the Food Service Department. Students have scheduled a
speaker to come to Project on March 20 at 8:30 to present a program
called “Unstoppable You”. They plan to invite students from other
alternative schools as well. Students participated in a food drive where
they collected 200 pounds of food; they received certificates from the
University of Idaho for their participation. Thanksgiving dinner was
served at Project, prepared by staff. Students are writing cards to
soldiers, and Santa will visit the child care center. Basketball season
will begin soon.
Identification of Citizens Wishing to Address the Board - None
Approval of Consent Agenda Items: None
Consideration of Action/Information Items:
Chair Newby set the process for tonight’s meeting: questions will be
received based on information provided tonight by the administration.
The floor will be opened to questions, information will be processed and
additional input will be gathered at the January 2 Board meeting.
Analysis of Sorensen Elementary: Superintendent Amend thanked
everyone for their attendance and appreciates input received thus far.
Tonight’s presentation is the district’s attempt to respond to questions
and concerns brought forth since November 20. Questions will be taken
from now until January 2. The goal is to provide as much information as
possible to the Board in order to make the best decision about Sorensen;
a decision may be made in February. Why is the district considering
closing a school? The budget presents some challenges and many cuts were
made last year. Some of those cuts were highlighted by Superintendent
Amend.
Questions from Board members:
Mrs. Wood asked about Borah portables and their use. Regarding Fernan
preschool moving to Ramsey: are classrooms available in light of
rezoning and remodeling? She would like to ask Long Range Planning
Committee about economic development issues outside of our issues. The
city has taken a stand to keep open and she asked to see the data they
used for their rationale.
Mr. Fredrickson suggested contacting the Chamber of Commerce Education
Committee and ask for their input.
Mrs. Brooks requested information about all portables and their current
use.
Chair Newby asked about the costs to move furniture, books, and to
forecast the needs for additional space; what would be the costs to move
portables to north.
Mrs. Zipperer asked about the need for additional positions i.e.
custodians, parapros.
Mrs. Brooks requested current class sizes and projected classroom
numbers after students would be moved from Sorensen.
Mr. Fredrickson expressed some concerns about transportation (bussing)
costs and will the district have to transport students who are already
in a walk zone. Will the district be reimbursed at 100% or 85% from the
state?
Questions from Audience:
Chris Guggemos, 822 Wallace, Coeur d’Alene said it seems like there’s a
determination by the Board to justify closing Sorensen. He asked if
individual Board members have made up their mind whether they are voting
to close. Mr. Newby responded that a decision must be made in open
session and there has been no pre-determination. Mr. Guggemos asked if
members have had any thoughts individually about what to do with
Sorensen? Mrs. Wood responded no.
Doug Fagerness, no comment.
Steve James, 905 Boyd Ave. Coeur d’Alene representing Sorensen PTA asked
how to get better information about demographics. How to build a
relationship with the city to help get economics information. Mr. Amend
responded that we will get input from the city. Mr. James asked how the
Sorensen PTA can help the district get better information so the best
decision will ultimately be made.
Sharalee Howard, 716 A St. Coeur d’Alene shared information/feedback
from her comments at the last Board meeting.
Teresa Runge, 905 Boyd Ave. Coeur d’Alene asked if it is a good
educational practice to transfer students from building facilities to
portables. Enrollment is increasing, and should the district keep
portables open for unexpected growth? Has a long range plan been
considered, what will happen if there’s growth in the south? Will this
lead to increased involuntary bussing, or art on a cart? Why use 8
classrooms at Ramsey when growth is so fast in northern schools?
Doug Evans, 717 B St. Coeur d’Alene spoke about short term and long term
costs. Won’t Sorensen help the district by providing the opportunity for
a magnet school? parents would provide transportation from north?
Looking at the short term savings of $300,000 – $411,000, isn’t that a
small amount based on district budget as a whole? Are we creating an
overcrowding situation by closing a school? Are we looking at
projections and possibly looking at building a new school? Is the Board
aware that the Sorensen zone has been the strongest supporters of school
levies?
Colleen Krajack, 607 S 14th, Coeur d’Alene asked if the Board has
considered the value of some of the soft costs i.e., sense of community,
and integrity; these things are very important to the community. Has
there been any consideration of the economic damage from closing a
school and then asking the community to build a new one? Do portables
suggest a stable and valued environment? Is there any economic value to
offering a magnet school where money could be generated? Is there an
impact to the Board and school district when community/city partnerships
are shunned? Would we be better off directing passion into passing
future levies instead of saving successful school? What better things
can money be spent on to then have full parental and community support?
James Collett, 823 Wallace Ave. Coeur d’Alene shared a response he
received about a request for public documents. He asked if there is a
plan for Sorensen in case of a closure. Are Long Range Planning Meetings
on the Internet and should this have been provided by the District? He
believes the District violated the statute. He provided some notes from
a Long Range Planning Committee about property speculation. Does the
administration feel the need to be cautious with taxpayers money? Would
it make sense to add portables at the Hayden Lake site, and how much
does it cost to relocate a portable? How does the District measure
disruption (pg 11), vs. how to measure rezoning and moving the district
office? 52% of Sorensen is district office; what percent of other
schools are taken up by district offices? It’s unfair that the district
office takes up more space than the school itself. Are socio economic
factors contributors of Sorensen scores? How are lower test scores
affected? Is it fair to compare Sorensen to other schools that don’t
have the same factors? Has the Long Range Planning Committee had this
discussion and isn’t it better to provide documents when requested?
Superintendent Amend will follow up with Mr. Collett.
Williene Gagnon - no comment
Jennifer Beery, 1015 N 3rd Coeur d’Alene asked if the District knows how
they will direct schools upon changes in zoning. Will student be
considered outsiders coming in and be first to be transferred out in
case of full classrooms at a different school? Will students who have
been at the school longer get preferential treatment?
Kris Hanigan Luther, no address given: asked where is the comparative
study of the financial justification listed in Superintendent Amend’s
presentation? If not available, why not? How could a greater student
load not result in an increase of custodial, office, food service,
aides, etc. costs? Has the Board familiarized themselves with the
housing needs assessment being done for Coeur d’Alene? This shows how
the city is taking steps to create affordable housing.
Roger Snyder, 319 Park Dr. Coeur d’Alene asked if it will be known ahead
of time of changes in the meeting format. Has the school board always
had public comment during a board meeting? Why is there no mention of
the research findings on the cost of consolidation, economy of scale in
any of the prepared documents used tonight? Does the District think the
research regarding consolidation is relevant to this conversation? The
variable of socio-economic status as measured by free and reduced lunch
rates does not appear to be a critical factor (pg 13). Does this meet
with the research and how do we square that? What are the implications,
changes in philosophy and direction? Superintendent Amend responded that
the performances of students are random in terms of a school’s
percentage of free and reduced lunch. Mr. Snyder asked why we only go
back for 4 years of test results but growth is looked at over 10 years?
Can we look at test scores prior to 4 years ago? Superintendent Amend
responded that the statewide standardized test, the ISAT, was first
given 4 years ago. Mr. Snyder asked why decisions based on research used
to have emphasis and now it seems we have thrown that practice out the
window?
John Bruning, 618 Military Drive, Coeur d’Alene represents the city
planning & zoning and offered information about the future of the
downtown area. Superintendent Amend will contact him.
Kathy Gephart, 924 Young Ave. Coeur d’Alene asked how does the district
know how many students are incoming next year especially kindergarten.
Superintendent Amend responded that the district does a 5 year birth
study in conjunction with Kootenai Medical Center. A system called Child
Find is used to track growth. Ms. Gephart asked if the district would
take a poll of how many students wish to attend Sorensen next year.
Amy Evans, 717 B St. Coeur d’Alene - Co chair of the Sorensen PTA asked
if the next board meeting could be held at a different location. If the
agenda is changed, would the Board notify people ahead of time? She
asked if the Board was aware that 25 students were transferred
involuntarily out of Sorensen.
Kyle Knapp, 1001 Wallace Ave, Coeur d’Alene asked if any contingency
plans are in place, in light of Gozzer Ranch, Iceplant and new family
residences. Have new family developments been considered? Have other
avenues been pursued besides closing Sorensen? Superintendent Amend
explained that the district is working on potential future cuts without
hurting students in the classroom. It takes a combination of asking the
right amount for a levy and being lean. This will impact all schools.
Mr. Knapp asked why no costs associated with increased maintenance at
receiving schools for Sorensen students has been included in the
information packet? Superintendent Amend stated that most of the
resources go where students go and we will break down moving costs for
January 2nd meeting. Mr. Knapp replied that no costs were noted on the
economic statement provided by administration, i.e. increased costs of
water, paper, pencils, etc.
Dave Miller, Post Falls asked about the numbers of transfers that were
denied from outside the district? Information in the packet (from pages
1&3) talk about attendance numbers, however the numbers appear to add
differently and are difficult to interpret. Is the average voter likely
to vote to build a new school in the North if a school has been closed
in the very recent past? If a change in the use of Sorensen is to be
determined, we will have to fix problems to meet current zoning? Is
Sorensen most valuable as a school? If the bulk of savings comes from
staff, will we take a major hit on student to staff ratio?
Jack Riggs, 801 S. 11th, Coeur d’Alene spoke about the recent change in
property taxes and asked if it’s likely that voters will support an
increase in an SPFL? Does it seem, when looking at the history of
downtown, short sided to be making this decision right now?
Jennifer Riggs, 801 S 11th St. Coeur d’Alene asked if the Board and Long
Range Planning Committee have taken into account the new shift in state
government. A change is inevitable. Money allocations and appropriation
are going to change, right now may not be a good time to make this type
of decision. Mrs. Wood asked if Jennifer could provide the Board with
new policies. She also stated the District and Board have been active in
developing some of these changes, and that we are proactive.
Pat Pace, 419 S 13th Coeur d’Alene stated if the district is sending 161
students to Fernan, have they taken into account the numbers of kids who
will cross 15th Street, and has safety been considered? What are the
costs of additional crosswalks and guards? These costs will be included
in the moving costs and available at the next Board meeting
Matt Banger, 4845 Ann St., Coeur d’Alene. Have we asked what we can do
to keep Sorensen open? Is the Board going to ask the Sorensen community
what they are willing to do to keep Sorensen open?
Ann Couser 1403 Ash Ave, Coeur d’Alene. Will the Board consider keeping
Sorensen open if enough students are recruited for the Magnet School?
The meeting recessed at 7:35 p.m. and reconvened at 7:45 p.m. Chair
Newby thanked all in attendance.
Magnet School: Sorensen Principal David Miller thanked parents
for their affirmation and support of Sorensen. Sorensen has been in an
evolution for over 2 ½ years; this is not a plea to save the school.
This idea was presented to district office administrators last spring
and perhaps this year, Sorensen can employ some of these strategies. The
staff is poised to move in an exciting direction. The School Board and
district office are the important partners. David Miller and teachers
Sandy Medved and Christa Seger read a prepared script. After the
presentation, David shared a website called “Learning Through The Arts”.
Teacher David Groth stated that people care and are invested in their
school. “Now is not the time, and it’s not a reasonable conclusion that
downtown will not be home to elementary age children again”. A Magnet
Arts program will offer choices for families. Can the magnet idea work;
if done well, yes. Mr. Fredrickson asked how long it will take to bring
a plan to the administration. Could they come up with preliminary plan
in a short amount of time? Sorensen will seek to answer questions
immediately. Mrs. Brooks said she is always interested in programs that
offer opportunities to students. Are some of these ideas more of a “wish
list” and where does the financial backing come from? There are also
costs to bringing the building up to code; these costs must be addressed
in the next few months. How will students meet and exceed district
standards? Mr. Miller responded there are costs associated with Magnet
program and it needs to be a revenue-neutral proposal. Their vision is
to pursue partnerships with the community, both financial and in-kind.
The meeting recessed at 8:20 p.m. and reconvened at 8:25 p.m.
Call for Committee Reports
Mrs. Zipperer stated that the Report Card Committee continues to meet.
Mrs. Brooks asked about the progress of the committee meeting about high
school schedules. Ms. Bauman stated that a recommendation may be
forthcoming soon. Mrs. Brooks would like to participate in this
committee’s work prior to a recommendation coming forward. Mrs. Wood
asked that the committee working with the District and North Idaho
College about higher education meet more formally and she would like to
participate. She wishes to continue the dialogue with all institutions
in the educational corridor.
Superintendent’s Report: Superintendent Amend explained that he
was not able to provide the December 13 Long Range Planning Committee
minutes for tonight’s meeting but will have them tomorrow and will
e-mail to the Board.
Board Comments and Information: Mrs. Brooks asked about future
cuts. Superintendent Amend responded that we are waiting for final input
from the levy questionnaire. No decisions have been made at this time.
He hopes to have levy weigh in at Jan 16th meeting. It may be the end of
February before the Board has enough information to set the amount.
There aren’t many areas that we can cut from. The entire admin. council
meeting last week was dedicated to getting feedback about levy amount
and priorities. Mrs. Brooks asked to be brought along in the
conversation. Even if the levy stays the same, the previous cuts will
not be reinstated. Chair Newby asked about the Project CDA/Bridge
Academy relationship – and comments he heard that Project has been
losing students to the Bridge. Are we providing guidelines that set
Bridge up as dropout retrieval? Secondary Education Director Rosie
Astorquia met today with high school staff representatives about
offering a Bridge - high school combination. Teaching and learning must
take priority when it comes to making cuts and saving money. Mrs. Brooks
asked about the cost to remodel Sorensen and information about how
current portables are being used. She also requested to check the
District footprint against Sorensen. Mr. Fredrickson asked the
administration to check with the city to find out about building permits
and at what point does planning and zoning get involved.
Motion by Mrs. Brooks, second by Mrs. Wood for Executive Session: Idaho
Code 67-2345, Subsection (f) to consider and advise its legal
representatives in pending litigation or where there is a general public
awareness of probable litigation. Roll call vote: Newby, Brooks,
Fredrickson, Wood and Zipperer each “yes”.
Motion by Mr. Fredrickson, second by Mrs. Wood to accept the offer from
Rene Rossman Berry to settle an outstanding judgment brought by the
school district, passed 5-0.
Meeting adjourned at 9:38 p.m.
Summary Statement of Executive Session
At 9:30 p.m. in accordance with Idaho Code 67-2345, Subsection (f) to
consider and advise its legal representatives in pending litigation or
where there is a general public awareness of probable litigation.
Vernon L. Newby, Chair, Board of Trustees
Lynn M. Towne, Clerk, Board of Trustees
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