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Long Range
Plan Review Committee
Minutes
November 27, 2006
Members in Attendance:
Harry Amend* Jim Ferguson Doug Jaworski Jill Neal Tami Stroud
Rosie Astorquia* Scott Fischer* Mary Larson Vern Newby* John Swallow
Jeff Bengtson Lana Hamilton Erin Lenz Dave Patzer Dianna Walde
Steve Briggs* Chris Hammons Bryan Martin* Joel Palmer
Mike DeLong Katie Harris David Miller Lori Smith
*Ex-officio members
Guests: Amy Evans, Teresa Runge, Roger Snyder
Welcome:
Dave Patzer called the meeting to order at 4:35 p.m. The meeting was
held at the Midtown Center meeting room. Dave asked the committee
members to introduce themselves.
Approval of October Minutes:
Motion by Lana Hamilton, second by Jill Neal to approve the October 23,
2006 minutes, approved unanimously.
Approval of New Committee Members:
Motion by Rosie Astorquia, second by Mike DeLong to ratify, from the
Nominating Committee, the seven new Long Range Planning Committee
members (Lana Hamilton, Chris Hammons, Katie Harris, Mary Larson, Jane
Curtis, Tami Stroud and Lori Smith) and forward this recommendation to
the School Board, approved unanimously.
Superintendents Report Harry Amend:
Harry reported that 125 stakeholders were identified in the community
last summer which have been supportive of the school district over the
past several years. The Long Range Planning Committee and Levy Steering
Committee members are included on this stakeholder list. Quarterly
newsletters are being sent out to everyone on that list. The second
newsletter will be mailed out in the middle of the week. Harry provided
the committee with this letter for their review. He asked them to let
him know of any corrections and/or additions to the letter at the end of
the meeting.
District Report Steve Briggs:
Steve reported that the District has completed the first reporting
period for its formula funding and will not find out the results from
the State until February 15th. There is an increase over our projections
(1 - 1½% growth). There will be an amended budget presentation in
January. The 2002 S.P.F.L. work is just about complete with only a few
loose ends left to be tied up on the Ramsey project as well as some
technology funds. He will report back to the committee with the final
amount of remaining monies from this S.P.F.L.
Board of Trustees Report Vern Newby:
Vern reported that the State School Boards conference occurred in Boise
a couple of weeks ago. High school reform financing concerns were
discussed. There will be a legislative reception tomorrow night at
Riverbend Professional/Technical Academy.
Sorensen Elementary Discussion:
Harry stated that the role of the Long Range Planning Committee has
historically been to act as a sounding board and to make recommendations
to the Board of Trustees. At the last Board meeting held on November
20th, the majority of the meeting was spent listening to comments from
the community regarding the future of Sorensen Elementary. At the end of
the meeting the Board asked the administration to do two things, to
start developing an accurate base of data (financial, enrollment, etc)
and to take this issue to the Long Range Planning Committee for
discussion. Harry also stated that Amy Evans, Teresa Runge and Roger
Snyder (Sorensen advocates) were invited to this meeting tonight to give
their input and participate in the dialogue. The Board will be meeting
regarding Sorensen Elementary again on December 18th in order to allow
enough time for this committee to meet a couple of times. Harry feels
that it will take a number of Board meetings in order to receive all the
information and to come to a decision.
The committee was provided with three handouts which were elementary
enrollment data for the last 10 years, the preliminary analysis of
annual cost savings in the event Sorensen was closed and a graph showing
the growth comparison of elementary schools in the north versus the
south. Steve explained these handouts to the committee and pointed out
that the numbers include involuntary transfers, voluntary transfers and
out-of-district students. The following comments and/or questions were
made by the committee:
When will we receive the rest of the information? We would like to
receive this information prior to the December 13th meeting.
Amy Evans will be the contact person for Sorensen.
Noted the decrease of enrollment in the southern schools (handout) and
that is makes sense to look at an opportunity to possibly consolidate,
but why was Sorensen chosen over other schools such Bryan or Borah?
Prior to choosing Sorensen, why was this not put before this committee
or the Board?
Can we give input in regards to alternative uses for Sorensen?
How many students are involuntarily transferred out of Sorensen?
Have the attendance zone changes affected the numbers?
Research supports smaller schools. This discussion is different than 6
years ago, you are now talking about consolidation (reducing elementary
schools from 10 to 9). A few months ago you asked the voters to build a
new elementary in order to add capacity and now you are talking about
reducing capacity when elementary enrollment is going up. Voters are not
supporting facility levies and what is going to happen to those kids,
where will they be absorbed? Are you looking at portables?
In regards to absorbing students, in prior meetings regarding the
S.P.F.L., remodeling Winton was discussed which would increase capacity
in the south. In the minutes from last year, there are comparisons of
the facilities and sites.
Is the hope that in closing Sorensen, a facility levy will be passed
in order to build a new elementary school where the growth is? Are you
saying to the taxpayers that Sorensen is not in a convenient location so
you want a new school in a growth area?
Losing an asset such as Sorensen is going to have some repercussions
(asset we are abandoning). Need to find another use for it.
As the Sorensen advocates, is your hope to keep Sorensen open
indefinitely? Do you see it as a good site? Are you a proponent of
remodel and/or relocation? What is your long range hope for Sorensen?
Love small schools but they are not cost effective. We are not losing
capacity unless we divest of the building. This is not a new question
(Sherman, Franklin, Harding, etc.)
Steve discussed the cost savings handout. If Sorensen were to close, the
staff would be reassigned and if the District did not have the same
level of burden on the maintenance and utilities piece there would be
over $400,000 in annual cost savings. The following comments and/or
questions were made by the committee:
How many of the classroom aides would follow the students? Would this
be savings to the District? Need a breakdown of the aide positions.
Where does the building rank as far as wear and tear durability in
relationship to the other buildings?
Are the maintenance costs if the building is not being used (moth
balled)?
Need an itemized breakdown of the maintenance costs for the last 5
years.
The transportation costs are needed.
If there is growth, there will be costs associated with it.
As the District sits today, what is its optimum capacity ability in
the elementary schools?
How many empty classrooms are there now? Are they completely empty or
being used for other purposes?
Need an inventory of portables.
Where would the Sorensen students go?
What is the long term prognosis for the Hayden site? Could it be sold
to generate money?
If Sorensen is closed, should we be looking at some values as
marketable real estate and entering that into the equation?
Sorensen is very valuable to the downtown community.
Harry reported that the District has developed a questionnaire and is
asking for input from both the staff and community in developing the
components and amount of the replacement Maintenance and Operations
Supplemental Levy. This questionnaire will be available on the
Districts website beginning on Monday. The campaign will begin after
the Christmas break.
A special meeting was scheduled for Wednesday, December 13th at 4:30
p.m. at Midtown to continue this discussion. The meeting will last as
long as necessary and a third meeting could be scheduled, if needed.
Adjournment:
The meeting was adjourned at 6:10 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Cheri Beard
Administrative Secretary
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