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Long Range Plan Review Committee
Minutes
October 22, 2007
Members in Attendance:
Harry Amend* Chris Hammons Mary Larson Dave Patzer Dianna Walde
Jerry Anderson Sharon Hanson Kathy Liverman Joel Palmer Michelle
Williams
Hazel Bauman* Katie Harris John McLeod Tamara Poelstra
Steve Briggs* Christa Hazel Heather Montee Ronnie Semko
Jane Curtis Sharalee Howard Jill Neal Lori Smith
Jim Ferguson Doug Jaworski Vern Newby* Kevin Stevens
*Ex-officio members
Welcome:
Doug Jaworski called the meeting to order at 4:34 p.m. The meeting was
held at the Midtown Center meeting room. Doug asked the committee
members to introduce themselves.
Approval of the September 24, 2007 Minutes:
Motion by John McLeod, second by Jill Neal to approve the September 24,
2007 minutes, approved unanimously.
Vice Chair Position:
Doug asked the committee members to get in touch with him if they are
interested in serving as the Vice Chair.
Approval of New Committee Members:
The following names were brought forward for approval by the committee
as new members: Jerry Anderson, Kevin Stevens, Christa Hazel, Heather
Montee and Michelle Williams. Dave Patzer made a motion to recommend to
the Board of Trustees acceptance of the 5 people listed as new members
of the Long Range Planning Committee, second by Jane Curtis, approved
unanimously.
2006 Project List:
The 2006 priority list was provided to the committee. The 2006 priority
list was discussed at length at the last meeting and Harry referred the
committee to the September 24th meeting minutes. He explained that the
purpose of tonight’s meeting is to continue that conversation with the
goal of working towards presenting a recommendation to the School Board.
The committee will need to decide on how many projects, duration and
whether it will be a School Plant Facility Levy (S.P.F.L.) or a bond.
Harry explained that an S.P.F.L. is spread out over the number of years
that you run it (1-10 yrs.), for example if you had a 4-year S.P.F.L.
for $20,000,000 you would receive $5,000,000 per year for 4 years. The
building is paid for when it opens and there is no interest (unless
short-term financing is needed). Bonds have two benefits, you receive
the full amount of money up front (similar to a home mortgage – you pay
principal and interest) and the payments are low because they are
typically spread out over 20 years. The last time the District ran a
bond was for Lake City High School. A bond requires a super majority of
66 2/3% and an S.P.F.L. requires 55% voter approval rate based upon the
dollars per thousand of the levy proposed (under $2.00 per thousand –
55%, $2.00-$3.00 per thousand – 60% and over $3.00 per thousand is 66
2/3%). The role of this committee is to discuss these issues, get
viewpoints from every school and present a recommendation to the Board.
Harry brought the committee’s attention back to the four projects that
were on the last S.P.F.L. ballot (Lakes, Winton, new elementary and
Borah) as well as technology ($3,200,000 over the 4 years). Other
projects that were considered but did not make the ballot were Bryan,
Canfield, Sorensen, new classrooms at Lake City, possible kinder center,
possible preschool center, expansion of Coeur d’Alene High School’s new
gym and a new Central Office. Harry asked the committee if there was
substantial agreement that Lakes Middle School should be the next
project (there were several nods). He asked if anyone was in favor of
speaking of another project to be the first one out. The following
comments/questions were made:
• In addition to the 2006 priority list, last spring Vern challenged the
committee to come up with some out of the box thinking i.e. K-6 or K-8
scenario, etc. These still need to be discussed. The list is not locked
in stone.
• Where is LCDC at in regards to Winton and Sorensen (providing
funding)? LCDC is Coeur d’Alene’s urban renewal agency (economic
development tool). Recently it was determined that both Sorensen and
Winton met the criteria to be included in the Lake District. LCDC voted
to make a recommendation to the City Council. They will analyze this
proposal and hold public hearings. This will take several months.
Approximately $405,000 has been discussed in order to make Sorensen
A.D.A. compliant. An amount for Winton has not been discussed.
• What were the amounts for the five projects listed? The construction
costs have increased approximately 30-40% since then. The March 2005
projections were Lakes $19,800,000, Sorensen $4,500,000, Winton
$4,500,000, Borah $5,000,000, Bryan $5,000,000, Canfield $10,000,000,
new elementary $7,000,000 and technology $2,500,000.
• Has the District considered trading some of their assets such as
Person’s Field and Hayden Lake Elementary? Will that building ever be
put back into use with the overcrowding at Atlas? The District owns 3
acres of Person’s Field and the City owns 3 acres. Right now the
District and the City have no future plans for the field. The District
is not using the Hayden Lake building this year. The City of Hayden is
interested in purchasing that building and has the first right of
refusal through 2010. The District has held onto that building for use
as a transition school during construction at another school (bus kids
in). Is it useable as an elementary school right now? Some of the issues
that drove a new elementary school were size and safety issues
(Government Way widening). It was built in 1936. It is not impossible to
use that building but it would be problematic. There have not been any
significant improvements to that building in the last 10 years. There
are pending issues that need to be addressed. What is the value of the
property? The last appraised value we received was $2,200,000.
• Inter-city schools are on busy streets all over the country.
• Right after the Lakes project is the need for more elementary capacity
in the north. There is only so much relief that shifting boundaries can
provide. We need to look at elementary capacity side-by-side with the
Lakes issue. We need a new elementary school in the north or a
remodel/expansion at Winton or re-opening Hayden Lake for 2-3 years as a
transition school. We are approximately 200 students over capacity in
the north without counting portables.
• Has anything changed with Bryan, Canfield and Sorensen to move them
further up on the priority list? How do we know this priority list is
good as it sits right now? We already touched on the dollar pieces, we
don’t know exactly what LCDC’s contribution will be and the increased
construction costs would have to be recalculated.
• If Winton was going to be renovated or replaced, would the children be
disbursed to multiple locations or bused to a single location? When
originally discussed, Winton was going to be built on the east corner of
the property (playground area) so that the students could remain at that
site.
• Is the Winton site big enough to build a new school? It is not a huge
site but it is large enough for an elementary school.
• How is the population shifting? Stay tuned. Due to shifts to the west
side, there were three classrooms available at Hayden Meadows and
students are being bused to that school. Atlas, Skyway and Ramsey have
the highest enrollment numbers right now.
• Class size and school size both have impacts.
• Why not tear down Hayden Lake and rebuild on that site or renovate it?
It is more costly to renovate than to build new. The site is only 6
acres and ideally we look for 10 acres for an elementary school. The
District has a 10-acre site on Thomas Lane.
• What if Winton, Borah, Bryan and Sorensen were rebuilt but kept as
smaller schools? Dollars would be saved if these buildings were not
expanded. Could we do that and maintain as many small schools as
possible at the elementary level? For over a year the committee did some
research on small schools and presented it to the Board. The best
student/teacher ratio is 1 to 1. It is a blending of what is the most
desirable and what makes the most sense economically. It is a balancing
act.
• When does the LCDC meet? They meet the third Wednesday of every month
at 3:00 p.m. at City Hall. It is also posted on the City’s website and
it is broadcast live on Channel 19.
These discussions will be the backbone at the next meeting. The
committee members were encouraged to e-mail any further ideas or
questions that they might have to Harry, Hazel or Steve.
Bond Financing vs. S.P.F.L.
The committee was provided a handout titled “Quick Analysis Bond
Financing vs. SPFL.” Steve Briggs explained that this handout
illustrates the costs and ramifications of a $100,000,000 bond at three
different levels of payback (20, 15 and 10 years) and there is an
analysis of five 2-year S.P.F.L.’s which would also secure $100,000,000.
He stated that a 20-year bond is the most typical bond used in school
districts and that was how Lake City High School was built. The money is
received up front with bonds and this handout illustrates the bonds
being issued on August 1, 2008 which is predicated on the spring of 2008
voter approval. There are certain limitations on how that money is held.
If the timelines are not met, we could receive penalties. A common set
of assumptions were used for assessed value growth in this handout,
2009-2012 is at 5% and 2013-2030 is at 2% (conservative position). The
higher the assessed valuation, the lower the tax rate is on securing the
number of dollars asked for. True interest costs were used and they do
burden the District over time. The average levy rate per thousand is
based upon the assumptions. For the S.P.F.L. projected election dates
and certification dates were used and the assumption of $10,000,000 was
used for each election. The average levy rate is $0.84 per thousand. It
is a higher levy rate going in because we are collecting more money up
front and it is a pay-as-you-go. A benefit of bonding is the
construction can be done up front and a benefit of an S.P.F.L. is there
is more flexibility. The $10,000,000 per year does not apply our S.P.F.L.
logic the way it used to be applied. Years ago, we told the taxpayers we
would not go above $2.00 per thousand in terms of our bonded
indebtedness and our S.P.F.L. rates which made a lot of sense at that
time. The District’s current debt is going to retire in 4-5 years which
means some authority could be attached. The $10,000,000 rate, which
right now is $.98 per thousand (it is a declining average over time as
the values go up), and if the $.98 per thousand was used as the new peg,
you could generate between $15,000,000-$20,000,000 more dollars
maintaining the same tax rate and applying the same logic that was
previously applied. The committee made the following comments/questions:
• What are the short-term interest rates for an S.P.F.L.? This has not
been projected because a lot of decisions would need to be made (several
options). The last time the District borrowed it was approximately
$29,000 in interest for $2,000,000 over an 18-month period. What are the
election costs? The cost to run an election is approximately $6,000.
• There is money, right now, set aside in the S.P.F.L. fund for
completion of the technology levy and the majority of it for Lakes.
• Could the District manage 6 projects at one time? Is there a limit?
Getting the bonding authority is one thing and issuing the bonds is
another. It depends on how the financing comes together. The capacity to
build multiple projects in the past has been a challenge. There would be
some kind of limit, there is only so many things that we can efficiently
do. Statutorily, we are not approaching our bonding authority. This is a
realistic figure based upon the number of projects on the table.
• Bond authority requires 66 2/3% voter approval. The bonding capacity
is set by State law. We currently have a triple “A” rating (favorable)
based upon our financial circumstances.
• A bond requires a super majority. We will have to spend substantially
more money to get it passed and it would be a difficult uphill battle.
• Once the committee has come to a consensus on the scope of the next
projects, it might make more sense to decide then whether to run a bond
or an S.P.F.L. If we decide on multiple projects, a bond may be the way
to go and we could hire a construction manager. If we decide on a
smaller project, an S.P.F.L. may be the way to go.
• What is the District’s current debt? It will cost approximately 15¢
per $1,000 to pay it off. There is roughly $6,000,000-$8,000,000 left to
pay off. The original date for payoff was 2013.
• What are the limitations on a $100,000,000 bond? Do you receive it all
up front or over time? It depends on how it is structured. Arbitrage is
one of the restrictions. If you don’t spend the money in the timeline
established with the bonds, then you have to pay a tax.
• Can you have multiple bonds and S.P.F.L.’s? Steve will check on this.
The capacity and amount of money that you can statutorily potentially
levy on the taxpayers is driven by Idaho code.
Board of Trustees Report:
Vern reported that it has been a pretty quiet month. The Board is
gearing up for their training and annual conference in November.
Next Meeting:
The next Long Range Planning meeting will be held on Monday, November
12, 2007 from 4:30-6:30 p.m. at the Midtown Center meeting room.
Adjournment:
The meeting was adjourned at 6:02 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Cheri Beard
Administrative Secretary
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